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November 22nd, 2006 at 6:32 pm

Women forced to leave seminar on Islamic medical ethics

An international medical symposium at King Faisal Specialist Hospital and Research Center, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, was stunned when a medical doctor insisted that women vacate the room before he entered to give his presentation.  The audience was made up of professionals, including doctors and journalists, assembled to hear a discussion of Islam and ethical issues surrounding organ harvesting and donation.  Some of the women protested at first, but ultimately all acquiesced to the demand.

Prior to the presentation by Dr. Yousef Al-Ahmed, the audience was informed that the doctor would not be in the same room with women when he spoke about medical ethics.
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“This is ridiculous,” said one woman, a medical professional and Muslim. “In the Grand Mosque in Makkah men and women pray together. Why are we being asked to leave? This guy knows a hospital is a mixed place. He should have realized that before he came,” she said. “I am being put in a very embarrassing situation.”

After Al-Ahmed persisted on his request that women not pollute his presentation with their presence, event coordinators began urging women to leave so the event could continue. Two women reporters from Saudi Arabian Television Channel One and Saudi satellite channel Al-Ekhabriya were also told to leave the hall.

After the doctor was satisfied by the absence of women, he began to speak on medical ethics in an Islamic context.

That is just priceless.  The guy is a medical doctor and he won't speak to an audience that includes women.   Does he also refuse to attend female patients?  Does he refuse to work with female doctors and nurses?  If so, how does he fulfill the duties of a doctor?

And didn't any of the men present insist that their female colleagues be treated with dignity, not to mention common human decency?  Did they all sit quietly as the women were humiliated?  Did any leave in protest?  The report mentions nothing about that.

After the women had departed, the doctor discussed a fatwa from the Council of Islamic Fiqh Academy that permits organ retrieval after the patient has been declared brain dead.  The incongruous combination of advanced medical technology and pre-medieval sexual taboos is bizarre (to me, anyway).

Another strange feature of this story is that several of the people quoted insist on anonymity.

“We had to ask the female medical staff to leave the hall based on the sheikh's request,” said a member of the organizing committee who preferred to remain anonymous.
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A Saudi woman who specializes in neuroscience said the doctor had no right to ask women to leave.

“We had every right to be there,” she said on condition of anonymity.

What, or whom, are those folks afraid of?

h/t: Religion News Blog

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November 22nd, 2006 at 5:32 pm

The church strikes back!

Galvanised by Muslim assertiveness and self-confidence in Britain, Christian groups in the UK are waking up and claiming their civil rights.  Minette Marrin comments in the Sunday Times of London.

The example of Islam in this country, for better and for worse, has powerfully concentrated Christian minds. Confronted with Muslim convictions, Christians - and particularly Anglicans - find themselves and their own faith renewed. There is nothing like a strong consciousness of a different identity for clarifying one's own. Years of milksop tolerance and ecumenical dither have given way, here and there, to a new conviction. The church strikes back!

"Students sue over Christian rights at colleges": that was the front-page headline of The Times yesterday. Christians standing up for themselves! Whatever next? For years it has been obvious to anyone interested in such things that Christian and post-Christian traditions in this country have been belittled and repressed by multicultural activists concerned to promote any culture other than our indigenous one. You could call this the spirit of Winterval - after the ridiculous name chosen instead of Christmas by local councils, supposedly to avoid "causing offence" to other faiths.

Rev Dr John SentamuWhile Christian student groups are being intimidated to adopt “non-discriminatory” beliefs and policies, no university has asked anything remotely similar of campus Muslim groups, even though the latter hold beliefs far more strident and objectionable than does Christianity.  That is not only stupid and hypocritical, it also contradicts the university’s raison d’être as a place of free inquiry.

Pointing to Archbishop of York John Sentamu’s (photo at right) forthright and passionate defence of Christian culture, Ms Marrin writes, “Even the dear old Church of England is showing a few signs of revival” and “[T]here is new life in these Christian soldiers”.  Amen to that!

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November 22nd, 2006 at 4:54 pm

Hagia Sophia occupied to protest Pope’s visit to Turkey

Hagia Sophia, west viewA group of extreme Turkish nationalists briefly occupied the former church Hagia Sophia, Istanbul, to protest next week's visit by Pope Benedict XVI.  Police have since broken up the occupation and taken 39 protesters into custody.

Asia News reported on the occupation before police intervened.

Turkish Islamo-nationalists have begun demonstrating against Benedict XVI's visit to Turkey. The Saadet (Happiness) Party announced a great rally for Sunday in Istanbul whilst 40, some sources say 120, people have taken over Haghia Sophia, one of the sites the Pope was scheduled to visit during his trip.

Saint Sophia was until the 15th century the biggest church in the Christian East. It was later turned into a mosque and is now a museum, but its symbolic value remains the same.

As soon as the papal visit was announced Islamo-Nationalists objected to this part of the visit, fearing that Benedict XVI might pray in the former church.

The "Happiness" Party isn't too happy about the pope's visit.

Tear gas was used to break up the demonstration and clear the Hagia Sophia of protesters, but not until they had finished their prayers.

Dozens of young Turkish men, chanting "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest), occupied Istanbul's renowned Aya Sofya museum on Wednesday in a protest ahead of Pope Benedict's visit to the former church next week.

One officer sprayed tear gas as police detained the men, pursuing them in the darkness below the dome of the 6th century building, one of Turkey's top tourist attractions. Police arrested 39 demonstrators shouting anti-Pope slogans.

Television images showed the young men, illuminated by lamps in the darkness, performing Muslim prayers. Police looked on before detaining them. There were no reports of any injuries.

The Saadet Party has also called for a massive public demonstration against the papal visit this Sunday.  Those happy politicians are hoping that one million people will inundate the streets of Istanbul.

The Hagia Sophia, originally built in the 6th century and once the most magnificent church of Eastern Orthodoxy, was converted to a mosque when Constantinople fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1453.  In 1935, Turkish president Kemal Atatürk ordered it secularised and turned into a museum.

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