A breath-taking equivocation on the issue of wife-beating in Islamic law by Sheik Ali Gum’a, Mufti of Egypt:
Wife-beating is associated with the cultural status of women in the different societies. Women in some cultures are not averse to beatings. They consider it as an expression of masculinity, and as a kind of control, which she herself desires. In other societies, it is the exact opposite. We must follow reason. When we are dealing with certain societies…
I got a question from Canada. The man said: "Here, it is a crime to beat a wife, even with a toothbrush. Is this prohibition acceptable in Islam? Yes. Islam accepts that the beating of Canadian wives, in this culture and ambience… From childhood they are taught that beating women is a type of barbarism, savagery, and so on. There is nothing wrong with taking this into consideration, and adapting to society, because Islam did not command us to be aggressive towards women.
If in their culture, this constitutes aggression towards women, then we are forbidden to be aggressive towards women. In this situation it is inevitable but to consider [beating] this way, and accepting the society, because Islam did not come and command me to be aggressive towards women. But when Allah permitted wife-beating, He permitted it to the other side of culture, which considers it as one of the means to preserve the family, and as one of the means to preserve stability.
In asking whether a prohibition of the Criminal Code of Canada is “acceptable in Islam”, the Canadian questioner makes it rather obvious which law code is considered superior. The response from Sheik Ali Gum’a, moreover, presupposes that the belief that “beating women is a type of barbarism, savagery, and so on” is an inexplicably ingrained and bothersome squeamishness on our part that Muslims living in the West simply have to “adapt to”.
Last year Ashraf Choudhary, Labour MP in New Zealand and the sole Muslim in the NZ Parliament, said something eerily similar to the Mufti. When asked if the Koran was wrong to allow stoning of homosexuals and adulterers, he responded, "No, no. Certainly what the Koran says is correct. . . . In those societies, not here in New Zealand."
“Those societies”? “Their culture”? Why do I get the feeling that Islamic forbearance of Western qualms would last only until Muslims acquire sufficient political and social power to overrule our cultural scruples?
via Dhimmi Watch.









Posts

I believe the laws of the state supercede any religious rules and/or guidelines.
Also, there is some messed up stuff in the Bible about such things, but they are not taken literally…at least not anymore. At the times these books were written, things were far less civilized.
As a Christian, I have to disagree with your first statement: When the government demands that citizens place allegiance to the state above loyalty to God, I can’t go there. To take an extreme example, I think Dietrich Bonhoeffer (a Lutheran pastor) was right to disobey the German government in the 1930s and 1940s.
I appreciate what you say about the Bible, but at the same time, I think you’d be hard pressed to find something in the New Testament that justifies wife-beating or stoning the disobedient. Also, the New Testament was completed many centuries before the Koran, so it’s not clear to me that historical chronology is crucial to the differences between Christianity and Islam.
[...] Ms Hashmi encourages her girls to allow their husbands to marry more than once. She has also taught that an earthquake in Kashmir was divine punishment for "immoral activities". Hmmmm. Islamists seem to have a penchant for attributing natural disasters to God's vengeance against certain degenerates and reprobates. [...]
[...] Islam permits wife-beating in some cultures but not others [...]
[...] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Leave aReply [...]
[...] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Leave aReply [...]
Two Michigan State University law students have written a scholarly article on wife beating and wife discipline in Islamic Law, posted on the Cienfuegos blog at http://gimmetruth.wordpress.com/2006/06/04/discipline-as-a-means-to-marital-reconciliation/ and I have posted brief comments on my Therapeutic Family Law blog at http://therapeuticfamilylaw.blogspot.com/